May 22, 2001
i mentioned, sunday, that i visited the titanic artifact exhibit. at the beginning of the exhibit, you are handed a card with the name of an actual passenger and at the end you find out whether they died or survived the sinking. i received the name: mrs. john jacob astor (madeleine force astor). i had wanted to research the name and see if i could find anything out about the woman. well, turns out i got a pretty good name -- one that was actually mentioned in the movie "titanic." i found the info on a site comparing the real facts with the movie's facts:
"John Jacob Astor was a real person. There was a big scandal going on at the time, because John Jacob Astor, a millionaire in his late 40s, had married an 18-year-old girl who was already pregnant with his child. This scandal is mentioned in the movie.
In real life, John Jacob Astor tried to get into a lifeboat with his wife, Mrs. John Jacob Astor (Madeleine Force), saying that she was "in a delicate condition". However, he was ordered off the boat by Second Officer Charles Herbert Lightoller.
In real life, the 18-year-old wife of John Jacob Astor survived and gave birth to the child, whom she named John Jacob Astor V. His estate gave her an endowment of $5,000,000, on the condition that she never remarry. Years later, she did remarry and thereby gave up the five million dollars."
I went to the Exhibt also in Chicago and i got Mrs.John Jacob astor ant that cool...and i'am doing a diary enrty for the Titanic and i was supposed to pick a person who sailed on titanic and i picked her..and i'am looking for some facts on her do you know were i can find them??
Posted by: Kassie at November 4, 2002 07:02 PMYeah, I can tell you about anything you need to know. she led a very long and interesting life, died in Florida in 1945 I think. Email me
Posted by: Bart at March 31, 2003 04:43 AMI have to do a school project on Madeline Astor. It's been hard for me to find the information i need about her. I need to know why she was on the Titanic, what she did with her life after the Titanic, and just sme interesting facts about her. If someone could help me out that would be great. Just e mail me. Title it something like ***madeline astor. or something like that so i dont delete it thinking its junk mail! thnks
Posted by: Tiffany at September 18, 2003 06:43 PMI am Madeline's fifth cousin. My mother was a Force and now resides in Coldwater Michigan. I live in Anderson Indiana. I have many interesting stories about Madeline passed on to me from my mother who was born in 1927. My Mother's Father was Eugene N. Force born 1906. A weathy man and many encounters with Madeline. You are always welcome to contact me if you wish.
Posted by: Brian at February 10, 2004 05:47 PMI need to know why she died, sickness, old age...and what she named her baby.
-Katie
Posted by: Katie at March 3, 2004 07:17 PMMy grandfather was Madeline's second husband, William K. Dick. My grandfather remarried after his divorce from her and had my uncle and my mother.
Madeline remarried a boxer after my grandfather and died in Florida. She had three boys. The first with J.J. Astor, John jacob Astor VI (not V) and the next two with my Grandfather and John Henry Dick, an artist and his older brother William Force Dick.
3 Pages to look at are:
http://www.trishastitanicpage.com/survivor.html
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/detail.php/12.html
http://www.aemyers.net/genealogy/d0018/g0000095.html#I484
Posted by: Hi Katie at April 12, 2004 10:19 AMI have to do a school report on Madeline Astor and J.J. Astor....right now all I need is a description of their parlor suite. I'd appreciate the help!
THnks
MO
Posted by: Mo at November 29, 2004 07:33 PMI am looking for pictures of Madeline Astor.
Posted by: Lisa at February 20, 2005 11:25 PMHow many bags of lugage did mrs. astor have nd how many times a day did she change
Posted by: Sarah W. at April 11, 2005 03:06 PMHow many bags of lugage did mrs. astor have and how many times a day did she change?
Please answer back
katie-she died of heart failure/disease and she named her baby john jacob astor V after his father, jj astor, the 4th
Posted by: at August 11, 2005 03:38 PMI would like to contact "Hi Katie", the granddaughter of William K. Dick. Can anyone help with an e-mail address?
Posted by: Kim at December 14, 2005 01:21 PMMy grandmother was Agnes Force, cousin (second) to Madeleine Force. I am just beginning to work on my family's geneology. I appreciate the information found here and would be interested in any other ancestoral facts.
Angela Stoner - Pleasant Garden, NC
Posted by: Angela Stoner at December 27, 2005 10:15 AM2 years ago i found out i was related to madeline force through a school project on family trees. i was just wondering do you know anywhere where i can find out more information on her as there is only 1 family relative still alive that had met her and has told me all they know which is wvery little.
Posted by: gemma force at December 29, 2005 04:20 PMI have to do this journal thing about madaline astor and i need info on her ASAP!!
Posted by: at January 18, 2006 03:13 PMi have to a journal can someone please emailme info about madaline astor my email is taynaz1@hotmail.com
Thanks!!
Tay
Posted by: Tay at January 18, 2006 03:15 PMHey lots of interesting info here! I am also doing a school project on Madeleine but mine is a bit different- I actually have to BE Mrs. Astor! I have to dress, speak, act just like her for a ten-minute mock interview with a few teachers, who will ask me random questions about "my" life which I must be able to answer in order to pass the project. Thanks again for the information!!
Posted by: libby at February 9, 2006 01:49 AMI'm actually reading a story in my reading class and is about the Titanic's sinking. I'm supposed to be Mrs. John Jacob Astor. I dont have a lot of information based on this person, so if anybody has any web addresses that they can tell me about to find information please post it on here as soon as you can. I would really appreciate it.
Thanks...
Posted by: Yulie at February 15, 2006 04:48 PMVulie- you needed some websites about madeleine astor info- here's a few i used for a school project:http://en. wikepedia.org/wiki/Madeleine Astor, also http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/biography/12/. they're both really good sites for information,because they are detailed. both give dates of birth/death, background info, etc.
Posted by: kammi at July 29, 2006 08:21 PMoops- the first site i mentioned, forgot to go through correctly- it's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine Astor
-sorry-
Posted by: kammi at July 29, 2006 08:24 PMthe first website still isn't completely highlited, so it won't work if clikced on, but if you just type in the site, it'll work
-kammi-
Posted by: kammi at July 29, 2006 08:26 PMi have to do a report on Madelyn Astor for school to. i hav found out alot of intisting thigs. lke she was 18 years old and john jacob astor was 47 years old, almost 30 years older, and he was one of the richest people alive back then!!
Posted by: at October 1, 2006 05:29 PMi have to do a report on Madelyn Astor for school to. i hav found out alot of intisting thigs. lke she was 18 years old and john jacob astor was 47 years old, almost 30 years older, and he was one of the richest people alive back then!!
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